Hey, /lit/. Can anyone tell me what postmodernism is? I have asked literature professors, avid readers; I have watched youtube clips, read both non-fiction on postmodernism and so-called postmodernist novels, I have even taken an online course (coursera - The Modern and Postmodern), yet I still have no idea what it is. Modernism is easy: The rejection of realism, the reaction to post-enlightenment values, the scrutiny of subjectivity and traditional narrative forms, the nihilism and post-God anguish, the "snapshot of the mind" in multiple forms... Postmodernism, in the most coherent definition I have heard, is "a reaction to that," yet I have never seen any example of this. There is nothing that has 'gone beyond this', just modernist novels written recently. That isn't a reaction. Authors from Pynchon to Murakami, DFW to Umberto Eco, are championed as postmodern, yet their books are essentially modernist. The most succinct definition I have heard is "a buzzword that amounts to nothing more than picket signs with the slogans 'denser prose' 'more footnotes'. So, what the hell is postmodernism?
Postmodernism is a rejection of modernism which is grand narratives.
>>28 Modernism continues the evangelical literary tradition that dominated the West as long as Christianity. A modernist work seeks to realistically expose reality for what it is, usually horrible in some way, and then offer a solution to that horror. Or sometimes assert that there is so solution and that we're doomed. While it accepts that History has a certain narrative structure, often a Hegelian dialectical structure, It rejects the notion of the Second Coming of Jesus coming down to save the world, which was until then accepted Christian dogma. But postmodernism rejects the concept that there is a narrative to history at all and even if there are objective facts. It rejects the notion of a dialectic. There is no good or evil, or even positive and negative! The universe is experienced totally differently from any given perspective, and therefore nothing can be objectively said about it. The only valid approach to understanding the universe is science under a postmodern philosophic regime. Any considerations of ethics is considered absurd to postmodernists. Therefore a postmodernist novel has no thesis. It is not trying to make a point beyond that points cannot be effectively made. That all dialectical discussion is meaningless, and that everyone's position on every ethical question is hardwired by their culture. So an evangelistic novel, a novel that advocates for a point of view, and certainly a novel that calls the reader to action, is not acceptable to a postmodernist, unless that action is to promote postmodernism itself. Everyone must remained locked into whatever culture/religion they were raised in. Any novel social movements are rejected as impossible under the ideology.
I enjoyed the movie Dune and tried to read the book but dont have time to do so. I now have all the dune books except for the latest one.
I was under a rock for a whole week and Terry Pratchett dies?! RIP, old chap. You will be missed. ;_;7
Im going to do a thread about a group of writers and there work. first I will be doing theFIRST SCI-FI writer of all time. FIRST SCI-FI WRITER EVER! She wrote a sci Fi story with a tiny hint of feminism. the story was called Frankensteins Monster, her name Mary shelly. Her husban was also a writer , his name as was Percy. they had a good friend name Lord Byron. Byron had a daughter that became the first computer programer of ALL TIME. There were alot of good writers during this time (1820s). they became know as the Romantics. (I never understood this name) Mary Shelly's parents were very famous and very radicalFeminist's Percy was a radical Atheist. Byron ...he ...well ...he was famous for...many things. more soon
she doesnt look like a Sci Fi fanGirl
For some weird ass reason I can't upload images thus it is impossible to create threads here so I'm going to hijack this one but stay within the sci-fi genre theme. What are some good/great lesser-known sci-fi series? I read a space opera trilogy awhile back but I can't remember the name of it off the top of my head.
>>187 Took awhile but I found it. The Unincorporated Man by Dani Kollins. There's like 3 or 4 books in the series.
>>187 Not strictly sci-fi. It's not sci-fi at all actually, but the collection called labyrinths by Jorge Borges might interest you.
The browser base of the chan has expanded a great deal in the last couple of months, however the excessive amount of boards that have been created, drowns out the unique board in static noise, which means that this board is still moving slower than a horny snail, crawling across Mena Suvari´s perineum. As such, relaying on more users on the headboards, for an expansion of the /lit/ crowd seems obsolete, and so I will start advertising the board a little around certain fora. Feel free to do the same, if you want masterchan to be the go to place, not just for /b/ and /pol/ related discussion, but for interest driven material too. -Best regards.
So, what are you gentleman reading this week? I'm currently reading, Papillon, by Henri Charrière, a bit of Aristóteles and another bit of Harold Robbins.
Dearest MasterChan. I found that the only reason I kept coming back to 4chan was the /lit/ board. I´m an unbanned "saint" over there, but I however find the resent unfortunate events, and the circulation in the mod-base, of the once so great chan, has become a tad over the top. So when I can´t come to /lit/, /lit/ must come to me. I don´t expect the traffic to be heavy any day soon, but then again, /lit/ was always a little slow. Have fun. Best Regards
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>>189 >NOVEL - HAMILTON, MARX AUGUSTUS.epub Yeah, I don't think anyone is that dumb here..
You're missing out on a great book.
Hey /lit/, Can we discuss Philip Roth's adverb placement? Every time he uses an adverb he places it directly after the verb and it gives a really jarring, stilted effect: "...and shed completely the skin of her youth." ...who played so beautifully her instrument." "...never takes seriously anything he said." What justification is there for putting an adverb after a verb instead of at the end of a clause? "Played beautifully her instrument," sounds so archaic compared to "played her instrument beautifully." I know it's grammatically correct and a lot of other people do it, but Roth does it every single time.
Hey, although we're slow at the moment I've made a new board for finding/dumping books. https://masterchan.org/Study
Could anyone identify this book? It's told in the point of view of this child. At the start he is probably a tiny child and witnesses his parents commit seppuku, he believes that they were killed by someone. So we skip forward a few years, I assume, and he is trying to become a samurai to get close to the Head Honcho samurai so he can kill him. There's also some romance between the protagonist and this girl who I believe is related to the Head Honcho. In the end I think they're on a battlefield or something (It doesn't sound very samurai-ey but I'm sure the weapon used were swords and I remember the word seppuku which is something samurai do) So anyways, the protagonist is really close to the Head Honcho at this point, but believes this is his last chance to kill the Head Honcho. So he goes up to him and they have a battle. The protagonist is told that his parents weren't killed but that they took the coward's way out and that they were bad people (which isn't what seppuku is about but okay) I remember the paper cover being red with a black ninja-esque font. Tell me if this is shitposting for future reference.
It sounds like The Way of the Warrior by Andrew Matthews.
>>60 It is! I just read an extract from Amazon and it fits. Thank you!
>>60 Excellent book >>58 Read Shogun. Same kind of thing, a fantastic exploration of Samurai culture
>>73 Shogun was too long for me. I just got bored about three quarters of the way through and dropped it. I enjoyed King Rat very much though.
What does /lit/ think of this? Is this THE philosophical work of our generation? http://mundusmillennialis.com/
So, what does /lit/ think of the genius Will Self?
Hey /lit/, I know this board is pretty slow, but I thought I should do some advertising. I created a new board, for philosophy and the liberal arts, /phis/. Since it obviously has no one on it, I thought you might be interested in it.
You seem to have read my mind, a borad on philosophy. How great, though is it neccesary, this board might die off if you create different boards on different literature topics. Maybe not..
Book related, do you recommend this read, lit?
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